Kelly Jo Brick: The Write Path With Marc Zicree, Part 1

A series of interviews with hard-working writers – by another hard-working writer!

by Kelly Jo Brick

Aspiring writers often wonder how the pros got where they are. The truth is, everyone’s story is different, but there are some common elements: dedication, persistence, hard work and not giving up.

Drive, focus and a desire to learn from those he admired led Marc Zicree on a journey that took him from animation to sci-fi and writing hundreds of hours of television for shows including STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, SLIDERS, BABYLON 5, HE-MAN and SMURFS. He’s also a TWILIGHT ZONE expert, writing The Twilight Zone Companion and is a bestselling novelist. He and his wife, Elaine, run The Table, a weekly gathering where they dedicate themselves to supporting and mentoring other industry professionals. He currently is writing, directing and producing the science fiction feature SPACE COMMAND starring Doug Jones, Armin Shimerman and Mira Furlan.


I started reading science fiction when I was very, very small. The first favorite book I remember was Farmer in the Sky by Robert Heinlein when I was seven. I heard Ray Bradbury speak at a library when I was ten and I think that might have really planted the seed because at that talk Ray said, “Ideally your life and your work and your art should all come from the same place.” So that was very important to me.

STAR TREK debuted when I was around ten and really was it for me. I got to go on the set and watch them shoot the final episode, “Turnabout Intruder.” Then I read The Making of Star Trek when I was thirteen. That was the first book on how TV shows were made. I think that’s where I really started to think I wanted to be a writer/producer working in television.


The first short story I sold was when I was 19. I went to the Clarion Writers’ Workshop, which was the leading science fiction writing workshop in the country. It was put on at Michigan State University during the summer. Twenty-five students would live in the dorms and each week a famous science fiction writer would come and live with you.

We’d write like crazy and critique each other. It was a real pressure cooker. Two of the students from that year became major writers, Robert Crais, who became a mystery writer and Kim Stanley Robinson, who became a top science fiction writer.

The six science fiction writers brought in were Joe Haldeman, Samuel R. Delany, Roger Zelazny, Kate Wilhelm, Damon Knight and Gene Wolfe. They were all very famous science fiction writers at that point.

Damon was editing an anthology and he said to us, “If you’ve got a story in your trunk that you brought with you, I’d like to read it.” So I had written a satire in the first English class I took at UCLA. That’s just when the President had given a talk at Disney World and I had this idea that if they swapped him out with the robot President they had there in the Hall of Presidents, Disney would be running the country. I was paid $50 for that short story.


Theodore Sturgeon, who was a very famous science fiction writer who had written for STAR TREK, taught an adult education class at UCLA and even though as an undergrad I was forbidden from taking adult education, I said well, screw that, I’m not going to miss this opportunity. He was one of my heroes. I took that class and he became one of my mentors and his teaching assistant was a young writer named Michael Reaves. Michael and I became friends.

Michael was writing animation and I had never really particularly wanted to write animation, but I wanted to get into television. Michael asked me if I’d like to write an animation script with him. He had already broken into television. He was writing all of the episodes of an animated series on NBC called SPACE STARS which starred Space Ghost and so I wrote an episode with him and it went well and then SMURFS was just starting up, so I wrote an episode of SMURFS with Michael. Then it was very clear I could write these on my own. So I started writing for SMURFS and HE-MAN and SUPER FRIENDS.


I knew that I’d have to create a sample. An animation script would not serve me to get hired in live action, so I could earn enough in 3 months to make about $100,000 and that was enough for me to live on for a year. I told all my animation bosses that as of a certain date I would not be available to write on assignment, because I would be writing my live action spec. They said, fine, fine, fine. Of course that day came and they started offering me jobs and in two days I had to turn down $200,000 worth of work, which ruins your writing day.

I went to UCLA where they couldn’t reach me, because this was before cell phones and I would write all day and then call in for my messages. I wrote a spec live action feature called PIECE OF CAKE and that sold, although it never got made. Then that was a writing sample that NBC read. They liked it and hired me to write a pilot for a TV series based on Choose Your Own Adventure, which was a very successful series of books. They sent me to Thailand to research it and then we went to Thailand to shoot it and it aired. I was off and running, so then after that I got hired to story edit FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES.


I really liked writing SLIDERS because we were tasked with reinventing the show after Fox drove it into the ground and SYFY picked it up for a fourth season. It was very fun to take something that had a great concept and design a season where it would deliver on that concept. So I wrote an episode called “World Killer” that really demonstrated what I thought the show could be and it came out very, very well. I was really pleased with it.

Coming Soon: Marc Zicree shares advice on taking meetings, getting on a writing staff and how crowdfunding can allow you to take control of your career.

Kelly Jo Brick is a TVWriter™ Contributing Editor. She’s a television and documentary writer and producer, as well as a winner of Scriptapalooza TV and a Sundance Fellow. Read more about her HERE.

Larry Brody’s Poetry: ‘Basic Training (Courtesy Of The Navajo Dog)’


A public service message from The Navajo Dog. Listen up, kids, cuz unlike us humans she always knows what she’s talking about, even if we can’t figure it out.

Basic Training (Courtesy Of The Navajo Dog)
by Larry Brody

The Navajo dog is a schemer,

A sage who teaches with tricks, threats, and lies.

She makes things real as they are needed,

Pushing and prodding to set souls into the places

She deems proper so her lessons will spring to life.

No cost is too high for the Navajo dog to pay,

Nor too much for her to ask of such as we.

She demands all, and in return gives everything she has.

When I asked her one day (oh so long, it seems,

So long, long ago!) why she did things this way,

Why she didn’t lead Socratically with the truth,

The Navajo dog barked a short laugh,

And pawed at the dry earth. As she dug deeper,

The dirt grew more moist,

Darkening into a wholeness that no longer could be

Chipped or fragmented away.

“This is truth, ignorant boy,” she said.

“This is the true Mother Earth. The deeper we

Get the more is she alive. All of her is one,

A wholeness that dries into scattered bits

When brought up to the sun. Your mother

Does not throw herself at you, and expose

Her innards. She hides, and makes you find her,

Plants clues—lies!—to tempt you and tease you

And lead you ever on. You must dig and dig and dig

Past the desert’s dead surface,

To find the truth of this world,

Just as you must dig and dig and dig

Past the desert dog’s lies.”

“And what you tell me now,” I asked,

“Is this the truth? Or is there something deeper

For which I must search?”

The Navajo dog stuck her muzzle into the

Hole she had made, clamped her teeth

On a shard of bone. “If I scratched my way

Down to the center of the earth,” she said,

“Would there still be someplace deeper to go?”

I heard the bone crack between her jaws,

Watched her swallow the fragments.

“Always,” I said. “Always something deeper.”

The Navajo dog yipped and pranced off.

“What do you say we go hunting?” she called back to me,

“And find ourselves something a little more alive?”



If you enjoyed this poem, you probably would like my book of poetry, Kid Hollywood and the Navajo Dog, available at Amazon.Com for an unlimited time for exactly $0.00. Yes, you read that correctly. Free. More than a Christmas present, this is my life present to you all.

Go straight to Amazon and avail yourself of all the delicious goodness simply by clicking HERE. (And if you like it, it would be great if you wrote a review. No pressure, but eventually someone’s got to, right?)

Many thanks.

Larry Brody is the head dood at TVWriter™. He is posting at least one poem a week here at TVWriter™ because, as the Navajo Dog herself once pointed out, “Art has to be free. If you create it for money, you lose your vision, and yourself.” She said it shorter, though, with just a snort.

TVWriter™ Don’t-Miss Posts of the Week – December 18, 2017

Good morning! Time for TVWriter™’s  Monday look at our most popular blog posts of the week ending yesterday. They are, in order:

Empty Promises: My experience submitting scripts to Amazon Studios

Herbie J Pilato: Thank you, “The Flash!” It looks like the dark and dingy days of TV may be over!

Herbie J Pilato: My Top Ten Christmas TV-Movies of All Time

Looking for TV Pilot Scripts?

Herbie J Pilato: RUDOLPH Does It Again!

And our most visited permanent resource pages are, also in order:

Writing the Dreaded Outline

The Logline

PEOPLE’S PILOT 2017 Writing Contest


The Outline/Story

Major thanks to everyone for making this another great week at TVWriter™. Don’t forget to click above and read what you missed and re-read what you loved!

The Story of Figurative “Literally”

Another little gem from Arika Okrent, our favorite grammar cop/English language scholar. Today she analyzes another of our pet peeves, using the word “literally” to mean “figuratively.” And, as usual, she does it with charm.


More about Akira, YouTube’s Patron Saint of Wordsmiths

Web Series: ‘Stinking Thinking’

This series is proof positive that if you have an English accent you can get away with anything.

Providing you’re talented and weird as hell as well.

For example:

And then there’s this:

Well, you probably get the idea. This series by Oil Hudson and Jack Noddings really has its shit together, yeah? Give it a try HERE

Web Series: ‘Sam and Pat are Depressed’

Frequent (but not frequent enough) TVWriter™ guest columnist Bri Castellini has a new web series on Seeka.TV, and, spoilsports that we are (to Seeka.TV and its ilk anyway), we’re here to give you a glimpse into its darkness, despair…and humor.


Episode 1 is also out and about…but you’ll have to go here, to Seeka.TV, to see it. Which reminds us:

WARNING! Seeka will make you join in order to watch. It’s free, and the show’s worth more than that, but still, it kinda bugs us, you know?

The Facebook page for Undead Burrito Productions, Ms. Castellini’s production company, is HERE in case you want to post your praise, or your disapproval, or whatever as long as it isn’t bullying. That’s saved for President Donny (although not by Bri, who ain’t the type to tolerate no nonsense from anybody, you here?)

Steven Spielberg Gives Us Some Advice

And now a few words from Steven Spielberg on filmmaking, success, directing, success, writing, success, living an authentic life, and, hmm, what’ve we left out? Oh, right – success.